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  1. cvalue13

    ??Q3 2023 Results Livestream ? -- Complete!! (Recap inside)

    sure but the question is if Optimus will be able irking gigafactories next year
  2. cvalue13

    ??Q3 2023 Results Livestream ? -- Complete!! (Recap inside)

    At this point, I think he’ll be compelled to discuss insider delivery timing, etc., to a greater degree than normal. technically, nothing to back-pedal or explain because in the Q2 he said ā€œbefore end of the yearā€ But there’ll pressure to explain how there’s not any material problem causing...
  3. cvalue13

    GFTX New Entrance - Inspired by QC Light Tunnels Inspection Systems?

    obviously not too obvious, at least to me ? funny choice, for a place that doesn’t build any Plaid? maybe it’s the thought that counts
  4. cvalue13

    GFTX New Entrance - Inspired by QC Light Tunnels Inspection Systems?

    maybe so but I'd *think* the engineers at Tesla could solve for this very basic problem - the right sort of ramp fixes it but, if they don't plan to put vehicles there, it becomes a strange feature to have in the front of the building - the obviously don't expect it to be a walkway
  5. cvalue13

    GFTX New Entrance - Inspired by QC Light Tunnels Inspection Systems?

    This has been rattling around in my head for several weeks, having back then seen the new GFTX entrance design from flyovers by Joe, as well as images shared by Musk. Maybe this has been obvious to others, and I simply haven't seen it mentioned (because it's so obvious?), but to...
  6. cvalue13

    Want a Cybertruck Teardown? Here's How You Can Help - Munro

    interesting take if it’s true that no manufacturer wants to pay for a CT tear down report (which as I remember it costs ~6 figures), then I suppose if fans want to pay for it… on the other hand, if fans pay for the CT then later a manufacture (or 10) come along and pay for the CT report… he...
  7. cvalue13

    Cory Steuben’s New Gig: Lucid Motors

    if you view that contingent event occurring at a specific point in time as being attributable only to that point in time, then I guess that’s one way to look at it having negotiated things like this myself, they were aware that the market cap trigger need not be maintained for any period to...
  8. cvalue13

    Cory Steuben’s New Gig: Lucid Motors

    How’s that? Wasn’t it largely a market cap trigger. Where can I find the details of his comp package you’re referencing?
  9. cvalue13

    Cory Steuben’s New Gig: Lucid Motors

    I didn’t say ā€˜both’ in any event, your points are well taken and good context that is relevant to honing in on the relevant critics of the Lucid package I intended to compare Musk’s comp package that year as an example of how these comp packages are hard to judge when cherry picked or...
  10. cvalue13

    Cory Steuben’s New Gig: Lucid Motors

    Which is all my original comment was attempting to say I said it’s still nutty money was adding only that knowing exactly how nutty, in which ways, takes digging into the details to repeat (a third time), I’m not trying to defend the package - that would be dumb instead that ā€œhe made X when...
  11. cvalue13

    Cory Steuben’s New Gig: Lucid Motors

    Yes, minced words with the prior revenue statement bad compare on my part
  12. cvalue13

    Cory Steuben’s New Gig: Lucid Motors

    if optics is all your orig post was driving at, it wasn’t clear and I’m not saying there aren’t notable differences, but: Tesla made $12B in revenue in 2022, so Musk’s 2022 compensation was 182% of that Bad optics fine. Different from my post saying these comp packages are complicated and...
  13. cvalue13

    Cory Steuben’s New Gig: Lucid Motors

    seems like it is because you say things like: you’re treating it as though it’s pay based on 2022 performance or production But it very well could be a term from his joining in 2019, that if by X date the market cap of company is Y, then his payout will be based on Z and to repeat, I’m...
  14. cvalue13

    Cory Steuben’s New Gig: Lucid Motors

    I don’t know Irrelevant to decorum though
  15. cvalue13

    Cory Steuben’s New Gig: Lucid Motors

    these exec comp packages can be misleading and confusing. In 2022 Musk made zero at Tesla. but in 2021 Musk made $23.5 billion in stock options Sort of similarly, Lucid’s CEO had a market cap performance target in his deal, which market cap target he hit last year (to be paid this year)...
  16. cvalue13

    Sandy Munro bottle openers for sale / donation

    I seem to remember them having these a long while back would explain the old design getting rid of old stock
  17. cvalue13

    Model 2 ($25k model) & Robotaxi will be Cybertruck inspired -- according to upcoming Musk biography

    seems right. At least interesting to see where their head is pointed it’s in the book as well apparently
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