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You've already proven you assume negativity from me where there is none, so that's on you. You also ignore the fact that Elon has in fact made bad decisions. In recent years I think most people could. Things I wouldn't have done: Sell massive amounts of shares to buy a social media company...

Yet you knee-jerk assumed that I was being critical of the supercharger team firing. And he's also made some massive mistakes. So no it's not rational to always assume he will do the correct thing.

The cuts keep coming. Gotta be hardcore. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/1-musk-lays-off-tesla-052806332.html

The irony is palpable. Just because you think any criticism of Elon is "hatred" doesn't make it so.

That's not at all what I was referring to. Neither of us have any idea if that was a "smart business decision" or not, that is yet to be seen and I'm willing to reserve judgement, but of course you assume it's positive in typical unthinking knee jerk reaction. "Anything Elon does must be...

No the government was not censoring Twitter previously, this is a false narrative created by Elon and his minions. Additionally Elon now censors Twitter to promote his own ideals which is far from the free speech platform he claims. I've already done so, repeatedly. The fact that you can't...

Everyone has weaknesses, yes even Elon. He completely screwed up by buying Twitter as even he realized. Remember when he tried to back out of buying it? He's also made bad decisions at Tesla over the years but luckily for the most part the good decisions outweighed those, at least until...

This is obviously false. The fact that the company was able to produce and sell a vehicle even with an at best distracted CEO and at worst a CEO actively damaging the company does not negate the very real negative impact of Elon's actions which are clear to all but a few extremists who...

The fact that the CEO sold a huge number of shares to buy another company didn't help. The fact that he drained a large amount of value out of that company and drove advertisers away didn't help. The fact that he told advertisers to F themselves didn't help. The fact that he obviously was...

My county in NYS is 100K and the closest Tesla service was almost 2 hours away in Rochester for years, now they have one about an hour away in Syracuse. I don't think you have anywhere near enough population to expect a service center any time soon.

Stock popping in premarket from this news, nice to see a significant upside move again. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-clears-key-china-assisted-040043142.html

" The best service is no service. The car doesn’t break.” https://thedriven.io/2023/04/20/the-best-service-is-no-service-how-teslas-business-model-will-change-the-car-industry/

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/tesla-shareholder-seeks-block-musk-144102832.html

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Good roundtable discussion

Wake me when we're up at least 100%, where we belong ;) Overall a pretty good call, very glad to hear the focus on accelerating the next gen platform separate from and ahead of robotaxi, that was a huge concern of mine. Semi seems dead for the next year or so, not clear on why, maybe I missed it.

Happy to hear the acceleration of next gen vehicles separate from robotaxi. That's a huge positive in my eyes. 4680 production seems to be making some progress, basically they are only using them in the CT and can produce cells at a higher rate. CT is at 1K week production rate now. Not...

The market seems to like the missed numbers, up 9% at the moment, guess it was expecting worse. Rob discussing the numbers

That's the narrative you are sticking with but there is plenty of real evidence that proves otherwise. The press has always attacked Tesla and Elon, that's not anything new. What is new is more of those attacks are valid and fueled by ammunition Elon is providing. I know it's more fun to...

Again, I've spent more time defending Elon on various platforms than most people ever will, I'm just not a blind fan boy who supports every thing he does no matter what. I'm more negative on forums such as this because the blind fanboyism needs some balance so as not to become a cheerleading...