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I suspect both Tesla got all that, and more. Ford, too, insofar as it gets the EV-community's cred of a partnership with Tesla (as well as the stock bump), and consistent with its BEV-related mission statement. As for what's "more," think for just one example, of the terms of the Federal EV...

this line of thinking begs a question: what did Tesla need of Ford it’s unreasonable to think this deal was put altruism/charity by Tesla. that would never stand scrutiny by the marker one could take the view that what Tesla got was a pure revenue-per-charge play, but that seems anemic...

there aren’t many manufacturers yet producing entirely new manufacturing lines for ground-up BEVs. So for them, they have manufacturing inertia making re-use of existing pine tech more economical compared to their alternative of rebuilding from ground up. that said, other manu’s, like Ford...

never noticed CyberGus was a a big pro-monopoly guy

Tesla’s corporate culture regarding the legal function (and so compliance), seeded by Musk’s own prerogatives, has long been in shambles. It’s only a matter of time before it comes back to haunt the shareholders. I’ll admit that as a corporate lawyer and a general counsel myself, I could be...

and it’s a fun idea, even if there are a few roadblocks to it being more than an idea. But this deal between Tesla and Ford does begin to create a situation where more things are possible. For example, probably becomes one step closer to tesla being able to strike deals with let’s say a...

Starting early next year, Ford EV customers will have access to more than 12,000 Tesla Superchargers across the U.S. and Canada... Mustang Mach-E, F-150 Lightning and E-Transit customers will be able to access the Superchargers via an adapter and software integration along with activation and...

I don't think Ford builds any of its chargers, home or otherwise If Ford is going to change it's TN BEV platforms to the Tesla standard, I don't see them *not* using Tesla chargers for stations or home. Who else would build them?

I had also missed the retrofit/adaptor bit, myself - was easy to get excited and miss details!

the release specifically says V3 - which at present is possibly equivalent to saying "whatever the best available is" -we'll see about V4 when available/Ford releases its next-gen BEVs out of Tennessee I don't understand this line of thinking at all, if the topic is given more than a knee-jerk...

PS, that this deal appears to have been in the works for a few years, puts some interesting context to the playful public back-and-forth between Farley and Musk over these past few years. a notable lack of any hard digs at one another, but some playful jabs only in retrospect, we could have...

those being the core drivers no doubt, I think there could be several less obvious drivers here For example, if one thinks through the details of the Inflation Reduction Act. Tesla was already making structural moves and commitments to enable non-Tesla access to super chargers, in order to...

yeah we golden, I can deal with toting around another adaptor

only half serious here, but, if we’re counting these sorts of indirect points in who “paid” to fund the build out supercharger networks, we’ve all got some credits coming Anyways, Musk doesn’t think the charging network is the reason for Tesla’s success or a moat:. “our supercharger...

I assume this means that Ford's next-gen BEV truck platform (the first ground-up BEV truck platform), will come standard with NACS

Can I .... ... retrofit my 2022 Lightning? pwease?

We’ve got an annual coming in October, too my neighborhood is under the totality, and we’ve already begun block party planning Thanks for the links @Sirfun

You’re confusing Elon the CEO of a corporation with Elon the private citizen You’re also confusing a settlement agreement with a law - parties entering consent decrees may voluntarily waive their First Amendment and other rights.

it’s becoming one of the most incorrectly used terms/virtue-signals I wish someone would just run ads during the Super Bowl, and every Sunday thereafter, explaining what “free speech” is I’ll start: “Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press”