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You brought up the nuclear treaties I didn't. According to that wiki article the space territory treaty was only ratified in 2013 so it took them some 44 years? To be clear I am not arguing that there would not be any terrestrial ramifications for non-compliance whatsoever. Rather I am asking...

Yeah the damage was a lot more substantial than they thought. When I saw the sand plume on launch my first comment was that is huge and is going to leave a hole. I was still coming to terms with what exactly was happening to their special concrete mix in the process, it seems like the thrust is...

Exactly my point, and a court won't even bother pursuing any order of that kind and just throw it out. I heard that the US abandoned the nuclear treaties a while back In the news, and blamed doing so on the Russians? ? The main reason for nukes not being viable in space is not a treaty, but...

One more item that I remembered from talking to my royal principality friend and forgot to write in the previous post; the Geneva convention states that after a declaration of war a Territory not occupied by the enemy is an independent state. Given how hard it is to get Mars in the first place...

Did you get your checkmark already as well? I was thinking about it so I can listen at least.

I am sure it will. BTW in response to your comment regarding Martian terms in the Starlink contract; no contract is "legally binding" until the court orders it to be so, and has jurisdiction to do so. You can think of contracts more as "legal suggestions" to which the court must ensure the law...

Treaties are poor mans laws, unless they can be enforced. :p It's a bit like SpaceX's capacity to launch more Starlink satellites than the rest of the world together can afford to shoot down from space. In the end they can shake that hands in fury...but thats about it. (EM words btw) Starship...

You are actually much, much closer to the truth than you probably think. Although now seldomly used anymore due to lack of new land discoveries on Earth, all land claims fall under international maritime law, being in essence first people to occupy and flag land bounded by sea. The US law...

The criminals being starving bread theives because anybody worse was executed...

Exactly. But in the process there will be a huge increase of astronauts, and returning Martians to train future astronauts too. Becoming multi planetary will also come with a general boost in human capability. As I said the point is to have two habitable planets, not one. Our chances of...

Colonists might just do a 2-5 year stint, then return to earth afterwards. With enough cycle capacity you end up with both enough people on Mars to make it sustainable and everyone can return to earth for a "normal" life as well. If things come to the worst on earth, then those on Mars can...

I didn't say it was, but returning even just one person alive is worth considerably more than an asteroid load of rocks? Apart from water (from which oxygen can be derived) and food there is nigh no additional material cost compared to returning rocks with Starship, seeing that a Starship was...

Sort of defeats the whole reason of making Starship an affordable Mars transport though right? Getting a Starship back, after it's already paid for and built, only costs extra fuel, and seeing it holds enough fuel for a return flight, means a one way trip for financial reasons is incorrect...

It would be easier to launch some tankers there with fuel in them. From memory if you refill Starship in orbit, you've got enough fuel for a return flight to Mars anyway. The point of making fuel on Mars later on is to allow more payload in Starships to Mars, where they can then refuel and...

I think most of the initial robots will be specialised ones according to the task. Universal ones will be less common until they can match human performance, or do mediocre tasks unsupervised for long period between charges. Good thing with robots is they can survive with just a bit of...

Yeah they do look interesting. I would like to have a look as well if that's possible, might have to see if I can contact them before our trip. I'm more interested in the earth based implementation for low cost housing, but hey if you can make everything at once that's even better. I quite like...

I sure hope they don't have to ship cement up and can produce it on the moon somehow... ? maybe they should ask Home Depot to put a store there first? ? ? (sorry ccouldn't resist) Cement production is also high energy, but I seriously have no idea what the chemistry will be that they can use...

I don't think they will have fuel production before they have people there, they need water for oxygen production. So they will need to take everything with. I thought the first mission was three robo ships and then a manned one..

That also means the ground won't be quite as dense and the lack of water means it will be less compacted. Some parts could be like bulldust here, which is actually dangerous as it likes filling potholes etc For a repulsive landing that would turn a Starship into a Boring machine, and it...

I think they will be launching multiple Starships at a time. The first ones will be unnmanned, probably with a selection of Starlink Satelites etc, and then manned. That way they get enough fuel reserves there, and multiple vehicles for a return flight. Potentially, they might even use a manned...