SpaceX employees denounce CEO Musk as 'distraction': letter [CLOSED DUE TO POLITICS]

[Luke42]

If they hate the boss they can always quit.

Employees quitting can really weaken and derail a company.

Hiring & retention is the boss's responsibility.

If you piss off half of your employees by trumpeting politics that clashes with their own, you've just cut your labor pool in half.

 

[Crissa]

His girlfriends don’t have a good track record of telling the truth. Amber Heard is paying Mr Depp multiple millions for making things up.

If you think all your girlfriends are crazy, maybe it's not them.

If all you see on the road are assholes, maybe you're the...?

-Crissa

 

[John K]

If you think all your girlfriends are crazy, maybe it's not them.

If all you see on the road are assholes, maybe you're the...?

-Crissa

All my wives are definitely, errrr, (only had one wife of 25 years) … experience tells me not to finish the comment.

 

[Morning Star]

There is a lot of anti-worker sentiment in this thread and a lot of apologism for a man who routinely mistreats employees and others in his personal life. Elon is a liability that will have to be dealt with eventually in all of his companies. He’s unstable and polarizing and these attributes will destabilize the culture and morale of the companies he’s a part of, especially if he remains in a leadership role. On top of that he’s one of the top causes of apprehension and doubt for people who would otherwise be interested in his companies products or services.

Unless he learns to be a team player or ups his charisma game this is the future he’s creating for himself.

 

[TheLastStarfighter]

People are going to agree or disagree on whether he's an issue based on whether they agree or disagree with the things he says. As such, this conversation will unfortunately go nowhere until it is sucked into the vortex of politics and the mods shut it down. I enjoy those political discussions, but they are understandably banned here.

 

[JBee]

At least I can use this thread as my EM troll Hitlist.

The people who are making it political are those who think he is apposed to their own political beliefs. No matter the side.

A person is allowed to have his own beliefs and not be part of any party, even though some might by happen chance overlap with some views, whilst others do not.

Isn't that a sign of a healthy unbiased independent mind?

And for those that call themselves "investors" have they looked at other parts of the market and asked why? Is EM responsible for that too?

I'm pretty sure at least half of the decisions EM makes, 90% of executives could and would never actually make in the first place. That is why he is where he is, he is a risk taker, operates intuitively (he said) and makes decisions in the full knowledge some might be wrong, but on the next revision he will get the opportunity to correct it. He is not afraid of change and readily has the ability to accept it for what it is. Rapid reiteration.

Anyways...I look forward to the pile on because I'm a non-conformist. ?

 

[TheLastStarfighter]

At least I can use this thread as my EM troll Hitlist.

The people who are making it political are those who think he is apposed to their own political beliefs. No matter the side.

A person is allowed to have his own beliefs and not be part of any party, even though some might by happen chance overlap with some views, whilst others do not.

Isn't that a sign of a healthy unbiased independent mind?

And for those that call themselves "investors" have they looked at other parts of the market and asked why? Is EM responsible for that too?

I'm pretty sure at least half of the decisions EM makes, 90% of executives could and would never actually make in the first place. That is why he is where he is, he is a risk taker, operates intuitively (he said) and makes decisions in the full knowledge some might be wrong, but on the next revision he will get the opportunity to correct it. He is not afraid of change and readily has the ability to accept it for what it is. Rapid reiteration.

Anyways...I look forward to the pile on because I'm a non-conformist. ?

I conform to non-conforming.

 

[JBee]

I conform to non-conforming.

If only we could be rid of our biases, no one can, except you know of course, yours truly!!

Actively seeking them out helps to create perspective though, whereas not seeking them out just creates an even more closed mind.

 

[Dusty]

If you think all your girlfriends are crazy, maybe it's not them.

If all you see on the road are assholes, maybe you're the...?

-Crissa

Amber Heard left the real version of a poop emoji in the their bed. . . I don't know who was the sheriff or the mayor, but they were both running things in Crazytown.

As far as Elon goes, he's becoming an issue. I was toying with the idea of getting a Y and giving it to my wife when the CT was available then using her car as the CT trade-in.

I hadn't mentioned the plan to her and she was very open to Teslas. But, last weekend she flat out said she doesn't want a Tesla. She said this out of the conversational blue, which tells me it's an issue. She flat out said I can get whatever I want, but she doesn't want anything to do with Musk's ventures because of him. This is a problem because she's not a car person, and for her to NOT like a car for a specific pin point reason is way off character. She thinks the CT is butt-ugly but was still only indifferent towards it.

Her chain of thought for buying a car is in this order:

- Can it fit all of the family's luggage, the family, and the dog
- Is it comfortable for her to sit in
- Is dark blue or grey available right now
- If it meets all of the above . . . buy the cheapest one.

Done.

She was just recently ready to add "EV" as a must, but guess what... That item now says "is it a Non-Tesla EV"

Elon needs to learn to STFU or atleast go on alternating 6 month breaks from social media.

 

[YeahYeahYeah]

He's obviously coming up against attacks from every angle now, I wonder why? .

Whatever the definition of this word is now? it's probably obsolete https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/liberal

broadminded-are you kidding? that's definitely obsolete


broad-mind·ed | \ ˈbrȯd-ˈmīn-dəd , -ˌmīn- \
Definition of broad-minded

1: tolerant of varied views
2: inclined to condone minor departures from conventional behavior



These people aren't tolerant, unless you agree with them. Elon is a scientist, inventor, thinker, things are either true or false, they either work or don't work, it was only a matter of time until he drew the ire of the "tolerant" ones. Shit I'll probably get reported here or banned for politely stating the obvious, if so I bid you all adieu

 

[Crissa]

All my wives are definitely, errrr, (only had one wife of 25 years) … experience tells me not to finish the comment.

Sometimes sample size is too small.

These people aren't tolerant, unless you agree with them.

Popper's paradox. Tolerance of intolerance is intolerance.

You don't have to agree to be supportive of anti-racism or against bullying of LGBT+. You just have to accept that there are things outside your experience that you should be conservative of opining about.

-Crissa

 

[HaulingAss]

Employees quitting can really weaken and derail a company.

Hiring & retention is the boss's responsibility.

If you piss off half of your employees by trumpeting politics that clashes with their own, you've just cut your labor pool in half.

So that must explain why all of Elon's companies are failing so miserably?

 

[JBee]

So that must explain why all of Elon's companies are failing so miserably?

The proof is in the pudding.
Some people don't like the pudding life served them.
Others just choose not to eat their pudding.
Some make their own pudding.

But the pudding just is, if we want it, like it, ignore it, persecute it, it doesn't care.

 

[Crissa]

So that must explain why all of Elon's companies are failing so miserably?

We'll see. He's changing his behavior.

-Crissa

 

[Luke42]

So that must explain why all of Elon's companies are failing so miserably?

Elon kept his politics to himself, and was popular with idealistic engineers from 2001-2021.

Now Elon's out of the closet as a Republican, and he's likely to only be popular with idealistic Republican engineers. As you know, educated people tend to skew non-Republican, and engineers are educated people.

I lead a team of 10 engineers, and there's one guy who vocally agrees with Republicans and 1-2 who may agree privately. My team's politics run the gamut from right-wing gun-guys to lefty-Christians and actual socialists - but none of that has to do with our product, so most of us leave it at home most of the time. Our team wouldn't function otherwise.

I have strong opinions about what is right for my nation, too, but my team wouldn't function without our exclusive focus on the product and the customer. When I'm on the clock, my political opinion is that we need to please the customer with a great product.

Cutting our talent-pool in half would slowly strangle our business and make it hard to please the customer, and we know it. Cutting the talent-pool will do the same with Elon's business eventually, but he doesn't seem to realize it.

Tesla's CEO should be disciplined and customer-focused. Anything else will slowly degrade the business.