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  1. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    Btw, the del Mar has a secret driving mode you can only activate through a key pattern, called the flat tracker mode. It basically turns off all safety features, traction control, and wheelie prevention features, so that you can go all out. Didn't know about that when I tested, so I'm curious...
  2. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    I wasn't sold on the del Mar until I rode it in July. It changed my mind and even got me to upgrade to the more expense launch edition. It is very comfortable and easy to maneuver. It's a bit higher stance than I would like.. 5'8" and I'm on the balls of my toes, but that only matters at a...
  3. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    Sure the specs could be fudged, but given the del mar 0-60 time was initially stated as 3.5 sec and when they released the finalized specs including final ranges, they updated the 0-60 to 3 sec. So i'm guessing they are as accurate to the same degree as zero. I've ridden the LW1 which has a...
  4. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    Zero SR.. 74 hp 122 ft lbs torque 104 mph max 0-60: 3.61 sec weight: 414 lbs del mar 84 hp 194 ft. lbs torque 103 mph max 0-60: 3 sec weight: 436 lbs This is where my comment that the performance is better on the del mar. Its got a ton more torque, more hp and faster acceleration. But the...
  5. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    Zero just dropped prices on all their models by 1k on the low end models and 4k on the high end models in response to livewire del Mar starting deliveries. Zero SR is now 17k with twice the range but less performance than the del Mar at 15.5k. the heat is on for livewire to respond and try to...
  6. Throwcomputer

    Hertz Renting?

    One of my neighbors was just telling me they have rented a model 3 a few times from hertz. I believe they told me that they provide LVL1 cable and maybe even some adapter connectors for other types of chargers. Don't quote me on the adapters, but Im pretty positive they said the LVL 1 charging...
  7. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    Well knowing this now, the S2 Del Mar has only L1 or L2 charging, so I assume the hardware and software required for that switch between AC and DC charging is not present in that bike. It's kinda pointless to use a supercharger with a converter magic box to convert the DC back to AC for the bike...
  8. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    Oh yeah I didn't even realize that destination chargers were ac and superchargers were DC! Two years of actively paying attention to ev industry and I never really looked close enough at the charging aspect of it! Obvious how it wouldn't work plugging one into the other now that you point that...
  9. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    Because this is in the general automotive and off topic section of the forum. And it's related enough being focused on ev motorcycles. If it weren't appropriate, they wouldn't have a general automotive and off topic section! There are enough of us on here who either own or are interested in...
  10. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    Crissa, or anyone else with experience.... I'm curious how charging works on a super charger if you have a lower speed charging vehicle? The Del Mar has level 2 charging, so I assume there are free public level 2 chargers which are the ones you see in parking garages or parking lots at...
  11. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    The lifespan of an electric bike taken on a trip like LONG WAY UP cannot really be compared to the lifespan of same bike simply riding a mix of highway and city commuting on paved roads for an hour or so twice a day. I love those series, but they are a highly specific and unusual use case, my...
  12. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    Rode this for over an hour yesterday, with a half hour ride on the Livewire One in-between the Del Mar rides (for comparison). It is a bit tall seat height, but its really comfortable and fast/easy to maneuver. Silent compared to the Livewire One. Speed/Acceleration comparison between the...
  13. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    Unfortunately they are so low production numbers that there is zero aftermarket accessories for them, unlike the rest of Harleys lineup which has decades of aftermarket suppliers and bountiful options for every model.i don't think this is going to change soon. They sold a whopping 597 livewire...
  14. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    So, Harley must have gotten a lot of crap from people like me who were offended by their jacking up of the non-limited edition pricing over their initial announced pricing range, or must have gotten much lower than expected reservations, cause they just updated pricing again...
  15. Throwcomputer

    DeLorean Alpha: Taking reservations with an interesting methodology

    And the design is butt. Trying to capitalize on nostalgia by selling a completely unrelated and uninteresting design simply by connecting the name to the nostalgia is a losing situation. Clearly money grab. I was highly disappointed. Was eagerly on the list prior to announcement, but once...
  16. Throwcomputer

    Musk say's "Too much on my plate" [CLOSED DUE TO POLITICS]

    Im not threatened by his accomplishments relative to my own. Im pointing out that celebrating someones accomplishments and hard work while overlooking their severely flawed character is re-enforcing/rewarding/and or ignoring their bad behavior. I don't need to spend my time pointing out all...
  17. Throwcomputer

    Musk say's "Too much on my plate" [CLOSED DUE TO POLITICS]

    Idiocracy is a great movie. Musk is not in any way related to it. And to think that he is leading us away from that path is yet another form of worshipping him. He's not our savior. Some of his projects might help, but he alone will not save us.
  18. Throwcomputer

    Musk say's "Too much on my plate" [CLOSED DUE TO POLITICS]

    Being a genius in a couple businesses does not preclude you from being a complete moron in every other aspect of your life, or any other businesses you are involved in. Dude is a moron. People on here worship him. His shit stinks like the rest of us. Frat boy attitude is cool in your early...
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